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9th May 2023

Post reblogged from Fnord with 45 notes

fnord888:

etirabys:

dumb question about how hard content moderation is at scale: who the fuck is uploading the child porn and beheading videos traumatizing the underpaid moderation teams in all of these exposés? If I were in possession of those things I would simply keep it to myself out of self preservation. Why and how are a small fraction of people doing it in such volume that it creates a huge problem for moderation teams? And don’t say “some people are insane”, that’s a curiosity-stopper

Sometimes shock value, as people have said, but sometimes I do think there’s a genuine desire to share the content with like-minded people (or, more selfishly, trade content with like-minded people).

While it’s not not dangerous, I don’t think it’s necessarily as dangerous as you’re assuming. The tools required for ban evasion probably provide protection against low effort law enforcement responses, and more sophisticated responses are limited by resources. Plus, the content may not even be illegal: actual CSA content is illegal almost everywhere, but simulated material and gore/shock stuff is often legal.

There are now so many internet leads on child sexual abuse that police have to triage them to pursue by estimated age; I’m told the cutoff tends to range from 2 up to 8.

  1. homiesexupal reblogged this from etirabys
  2. rustingbridges reblogged this from fnord888 and added:
    from going on the internet in the 00s I will speculate that people will upload cp just to make a mods are asleep joke:...
  3. kontextmaschine reblogged this from fnord888 and added:
    There are now so many internet leads on child sexual abuse that police have to triage them to pursue by estimated age;...
  4. plotbunnyfarm reblogged this from fnord888 and added:
    In addition, specifically about the beheading videos: they're at least partly to intimidate enemies and recruit...
  5. fnord888 reblogged this from etirabys and added:
    Sometimes shock value, as people have said, but sometimes I do think there's a genuine desire to share the content with...
  6. transgenderer said: i have friends that like gore videos, so ynow. sharing your gore videos with friends. also i think you get more of a like fun risque thrill from getting it on a “real website”, like its in the “wrong place”
  7. nightpool said: different reasons for each. people upload CP to share it with other people who have CP as an underground barter economy (because most people who are into CP do not produce it themselves). but beheading/gore videos are uploaded mostly for trolling reasons and only much more rarely for actual enthusiasts.
  8. togglessymposium reblogged this from etirabys and added:
    I've been told that lots of ISIS/Al-Qaeda style terrorist recruitment among disaffected young men started with a chain...
  9. arb0k said: i studied cybersecurity in grad school and have gone to several talks on CP enforcement and you cannot possibly underestimate how technologically illiterate many people are. common for people to get caught because they uploaded their stash to their facebook which was set to private, and they figured that was secure
  10. notarealwelder said: Some of those people are gonna sincerely lack a belief that this content is inappropriate / offensive / dangerous to share, due to being immersed in a cultural context where it in fact isn’t, or where offensiveness is considered a virtue. Dumb teenagers raised by 4chan, basically. (Dunno if that explains volume though.)
  11. analytically said: do ISIS beheading videos and ISIS propaganda/recruitment videos overlap at all?
  12. etirabys said: @mg-dl didn’t think of that last one, that’s interesting
  13. mg-dl said: Titillation for some, ways to shock/offend/get posts taken down for others. Kind of the (semi) logical extreme of fail video compilations in some cases too.
  14. keynes-fetlife-mutual said: I don’t have great models of this (let alone data), but I assume they’re usually posted for shock value/as a form of harassment. online equivalent of leaving a flaming sack of shit at someone’s doorstep
  15. intimate-mirror said: Is it illegal to own execution videos? Didn’t realize that if true
  16. jiskblr said: lizardman constant
  17. etirabys posted this
    dumb question about how hard content moderation is at scale: who the fuck is uploading the child porn and beheading...