kontextmaschine

Right-militant symbolism encountered in the last two months playing the Battlefield franchise of online shooters:

  • One Nazi flag profile image, all colors and proportions on-model
  • A wide variety of South American users and private servers with 4-letter clan tags and logos (frequently in quartered unit patch format with skulls and lightning bolts as prominent elements) that map to local paramilitaries
  • A few Rising Sun flags and uyoku dantai slogans
  • (just now) one profile tag consisting of a large silver police shield bearing an image of a modern rifle above the large numbers “88″ in blue

Left-militant symbolism:

  • One profile image of a red flag with yellow hammer and sickle flapping in the wind
kontextmaschine

Since then (11/10/16):

  • A Kek flag
  • Several Pepe variants
  • The usual Nazi flags
  • A swastika made of right-facing handgun stamps that was actually the most novel take on the subject I’ve seen in a while
  • A LOT of Blue Lives Matter iconography - the American flag (often subdued color) with one blue stripe, the Punisher skull, often with “first responder” subculture signifiers like the numbers 5.11, etc.
isaacsapphire

5.11 clothing is far Right now? What political affiliation is Dickies? Timberland boots? LL Bean?

Being a fan of comic book character The Punisher is far Right? What political affiliation does liking Spiderman indicate? Deadpool? Captain America?

Seriously? You’re tarring all first responders as far Right? We’re legit going with the “firemen up against the wall” thing here?

thefutureoneandall

This seems messy, yeah.

I do frequently see the Punisher skull as a right-authoritarian symbol. I’m not even sure most of the users know it’s from comics, though that’s obviously the tough-on-crime connection. I think a lot of them might just find it badass.

Similarly, 5.11 Tactical is a weird combo of sepratist-right, authoritarian-right, and simple practicality. It’s obviously not full-rightist, it was founded by climber-hippy Royal Robbins and a lot of people buy it like they buy Carhartt. But… it first got major traction with FBI agents, and their April Fools tactical kilt actually sold super well with the Ammon Bundy utilikilt crowd. (And that’s it’s own contradiction, of course. Lumping the ATF and the Waco crowd together as “far right” is damn sloppy, but there’s alignment there.) I have raised an eyebrow on seeing 5.11 gear in totally needless contexts, but it’s far from a clear symbol.

There was a great photo a while back of a website about government surveillance selling masks to hide your face - printed with the Punisher skull in thin blue line colors! I’m tempted to file the whole thing as a vague counterculture mashup too ill-defined to read much into.

isaacsapphire

People who intend to actually do things, like working, rescuing people, engaging in gun violence, and so on, like good equipment with which to do so. The rare practical revolutionary Communist is no different about their priorities for equipment.

NOT EVERYONE BUYS CLOTHING FOR SIGNALING PURPOSES. Some people buy shit to actually use, and they prioritize comfort, durability, pockets custom made to hold EMT gear or spare magazines, and having an extended crotch panel so they don’t split their pants while crawling around over if it properly signals their ideological affiliation.

If you’re sincerely planning on maybe running through bushes and shooting people, you will be interested in an accurate easy to use gun that doesn’t jam and some pants that won’t rip, etc. to do it all with. It doesn’t matter what ideology, if any, you plan on supporting via running through bushes, etc. you are going to want the same basic equipment.

There exists a cluster that overlaps “suspicious of the government, likes guns, and would like a thing in Punisher skull with a thin blue line” You already mentioned them as “the Ammon Bundy utilikilt crowd”! (Utilikilts don’t actually correlate to being a 3%er or in a militia, imo btw) but you mean militia/3% types.

kontextmaschine

Also, @isaacsapphire, L.L. Bean is ‘70s Vermont hippie turned '80s yuppie, Timberland boots-wearers probably supported BLM, and I’m not too sure about the particulars but when I lived in Echo Park when there were still blue collar work clothes shops Dickies and Ben Davis were definitely trying to differentiate what kind of person bought each.