It seems increasingly likely that the rising generation is more likely to turn conservative not because they want to be rich, but because they want to be mean.
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“We maybe have socially conservative ideas about gender relations,” said Nekrasovoa. “It feels very dangerous to talk about this.” Khachiyan is less shy, and began ticking things off. “I think that women want a daddy, a provider, whether that’s the state or an individual man. I think it’s positive or pleasing when a man pays for you or compliments you. I think heteronormative or heterosexual sex is mostly about the male physically dominating the woman in the bedroom and both sides get off on that, it’s not a shameful thing.”
Murnane interrupted. “I don’t. If I could just care of myself, I wouldn’t care if ‘Daddy’ could take care of me.”
“I would!” said Khachiyan, grinning widely. “I will go on record as saying that I would not be podcasting if I could be barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen.”
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A friend of mine who was an early listener to the show explained that he had found in it “a thrill out of hearing these people who seemed to have no fear about violating the relatively new and very strict rules about how to talk and what to say. Not so long ago, I didn’t feel particularly constrained in how I expressed myself, and I didn’t feel out of step with other liberals.”
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Hitting recurring themes:
• New York Magazine absolutely trying to revive and own the ‘90s-style “liberal ofc but c’mon, let’s not go overboard” beat
• Post-‘60s immigrants (two of the crew came from Russia) in the role played last cycle by the “white ethnics” unashamedly saying “miss me with that cultural leftism”